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Hallo,
mich würde mal interessieren ob sich hier jemand dauerhaft lowcarb oder gar nocarb ernährt? An sich bin ich von dem Lowcarb-Konzept überzeugt, fand es aber doch sehr schwer das dauerhaft durchzuhalten. Habe mir jetzt den Logi-Guide bestellt und erwäge mich dauerhaft so zu ernähren.
definiere low carb? 100g? 30g?
du kannst es auch so machen das du dich an trainingstagen mit mehr carbs (bis 200g) ernährst und an nicht trainingstagen lowcarb (30-100). ich mach das so und es klappt gut und ist ohne probleme zum durchhalten
sieht bei mir dann so aus
das türkise sind die carbs. das braune fett und was das ew is ist klar
khs bestehend aus obst gemüse und basmatireis
fette hauptsächlich gute aus nüssen olivenöl fisch usw
jo 100 Gramm max und/oder niedriger GI (GL) (GI unter 50, GL +-10)
basmati reis hat einen glix von 60. obst und gemüse hat generell bis auf bananen einen gi unter 50. außerdem fällt der glyx wenn du die khs in verbindung mit ew isst. was immer der fall ist bei vernünftiger ernährung
Wildreis 35 :rock:Zitat:
Zitat von xerof
Aber man muss ja auch eh keinen Reis essen, konsumiere schon länger keine Kartoffeln mehr und nur ab und zu mal Reis
Zugegeben, ist fuer die meisten schwer durchzuhalten. Machen aber viele Leute so. Allerdings nur solche, die staendig Probleme mit dem Ueberwicht haben, wie ich. Andere werden nie die noetige Motivation dazu aufbringen. Warum auch? 'Warum sollten 'Normalos' freiwillig auf so viele Lebensmittel verzichten?
Am besten erst gar nichts nach Hause bringen, was einen in Versuchung fuehrt.
Zur Motivation: Dieser Mann ist 71 Jahre und war 47 Jahre reiner Fleischesser:
The real human diet is a totally carnivorous one.
Hello all,
I have been eating the natural human dietary regime for over 47 years now. I do not eat anything whatsoever from vegetable sources. The only things veggie I use are spices. My diet is usually 60% fat and 40% protein by calories. I used to eat 80/20 when younger and about twice as much quantity of meat also, but that seems too much energy at my age, which is 71- even though I am very active. I think the body actually becomes more efficient with energy as you age, but I have no way of proving it true. Otherwise, my body today is very like it was at the age of 30. I figure most of what we call 'aging' is due to insulin damage to the collagen and other body structures. No carbs = no insulin. I don't heal quite as fast when injured as I did as a youngster, however. But I have few wrinkles, and my skin is still strong and elastic.
At this point I would like to point out that a zero carb diet does NOT cause ketosis. The body rapidly adapts within a few weeks and begins consuming the ketones from fat metabolism. A fully keto-adapted body excretes no ketones in the urine. A metabolic by product, 'ketone bodies' are actually a special kind of carb, and they substitute for glucose at the structures which use it. They have the added advantage of making you feel good- and well fed.
The body cannot store dietary fat, there is no mechanism for transport across the adipose cell's wall, nor can it 'burn' carbs, which actually are toxic in more than the tiny amount required by the brain and a few other structures. The body converts dietary carbs (all convert to glucose as they are absorbed) into body fat. The conversion mechanism requires insulin which is very tissue-damaging. It is correct to say that dietary carbs are the base cause of both heart blockage and diabetes, (not a disease).
I must warn all of you that it is very unlikely that very many will be able to eat as I do over the long term, or in fact, to follow any diet for long which is much different from the one you were trained to as a baby/child. This is because diet is learned much the same way language, dress and behaviour is, and is buried deep and inaccessible, a part of your acculturation/socialisation. The very thing which makes us human is that deep and almost instinctive complex of behaviour.
It requires a powerful will and a determination to change, in order to succeed in adopting the 'extreme' diet which this website is based on. Even those who are morbidly obese, as powerful a motivation as any I can imagine will have 'cravings' for what I call 'non-food' (all vegetation and carbs) which will eventually prove irresistible. A few may manage to stay on the diet for years, but unless you are prepared to stick with it for maybe ten or more years, you will drift back into eating what I consider poison. For some reason my mum was not interested in forcing me to eat the veggies I hated so, and i was able to eat only what I liked- mostly meat, especially hamburger and the fat those at our table would cut from their steaks. Still I had massive struggles abandoning the 'civilised diet'.
I suggest that no non-food be taken home, none allowed in your fridge or pantry (out of sight is hopefully out of mind). Make a request when seated in a restaurant that the bread bin be removed (but please leave the butter), and when ordering, request that the vegetables be removed from the plate in the kitchen (just say you don't like to see 'good food go to waste').
Even during the years I was soundman for Grateful Dead, I stuck to my guns and remained totally carnivorous. I am restricted by the forums rules (as I read them) from telling about my essay on diet and exercise which is posted on my website. Basically it states that humans were totally hunting peoples until the end of the paleolithic age. No paleolithic archeological dig has ever produced any food residues from vegetables. Chemical analysis of bones from the digs indicates they are the same composition as the African lion- thus, virtually no intake of vegetation. There were no 'hunter-gatherer' societies until the neolithic, even though some modern HG tribes still made and used typical paleolithic napped-stone tools. The so called Nearthin and Paleodiet thus are both nonsense, true paleolithic people were total carnivores and ate no veggies whatsoever.
In the relatively short evolutionary period since the consumption of vegetables as food there has not been any real adaptation to such low grade low energy, difficult to digest foods. Because we have no adaptation to digesting or processing vegetables as food, they are all basically very bad for us.
We evolved as an active, group-hunting animal. We have a high natural requirement for physical exercise and cannot live long or be healthy without a lot of it.
I hope my post is of some help to others. Just persist. I show that it IS possible to overcome your dietary socialisation.
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
Laut dem Insulin-Index bewirken Fleisch und Käse auch einen Insulin-Ausstoß. Von no carb bin ich auch nicht überzeugt, allerdings halte ich einen konstanten Blutzuckerspiegel und einen möglichst geringen Insulinausstoß für sinnvoll.
Die Frage ist dann wieder von wem der Insulin-Index kommt - es ist gar nicht so abwegig hinter solchen Forschungsarbeiten die Getreide- und Zuckerindustrie zu vermuten.
ich machs ähnlich wie süßstoffer.
an trainingstagen im pre- und post-workout gibts stärkehaltige kh. ansonsten nur ballaststoffreiche. hab so an trainingstagen ca. 200g kh und an trainingsfreien tagen ca. 100g kh, wobei die dann ausschließlich aus obst und gemüse kommen. fahr ganz gut damit und finds auch nicht schwer durchzuhalten
würde dir die anabole diät empfehlen ! die kannst du auch dauerhaft durchziehen.#popcornZitat:
Zitat von BioKartoffel