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Your question is too confused, make it more undestandable.

Serge

hello serge

i wanted to know a kind of "guideline" what would be possible to reach for natural working athletes....(in generall, not individual,thats different from athlete to athlete)

more understandable: UNTIL which limit steroids are definately NOT necessary-in YOUR opinion-to have well relation between muscle and fat?

this is the reason I noun different weight/fat relations at a static body-length...

or better: would you think, that the formula: bodylength in cm (183cm) - 100 +10% would be realistic ore more/less

example: 183cm-100+10% (10% of bodylength)=91,3

i.e: an athlete who is 183cm is able to reach 91,3kg bodybeight at 10% bodyfat
without use of steroids....

is that in GENERAL possible? or even more? ore even less?

is this realistic to aim at?

i hope it is now more understandable, than other post

greetings...