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  1. #1
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    Fettburner aus den USA?

    Hallo!

    Ich überlege mir gerade aus dem Amerikaurlaub evtl. etwas zum abnehmen mitzubringen. Ich bekomme trotz Training einfach meinen Bauch und mein leichtes Doppelkinn nicht weg. Was gibt es denn für effektive Sachen die man dort überall in den Vitaminshops kaufen kann?

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    1.sesathin von avantlabs
    2.red acid von controlled labs

    3. dazu würde ich noch fischöl-kapseln (gibbet bei uns auch) 7-8 g/ d nehmen.

    4.kaloriendefizit 500 kcal/d (auf keinen fall mehr!!!)

    5. HIIT (high intensity interval training) 3 x pro woche

    6. geduld!!!

    7. ernährung: kein junk-food, KH (v.a. solche mit hohem GI) reduzieren, proteinreich

    8. das ganze so lange machen, bis kf auf unter 12% runter ist.

    9. wenn dann immer noch problemstellen sind (z.B. bauch / doppelkinn) dann topischer fat-burner (z.b. lipoderm ultra von avantlabs).

    diese methode ist "ottonis-erprobt" und narrensicher (bis auf punkt 2).

    besten gruss und viel erfolg!!!

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    Und ich sag dir nur eins

    "Spar dir dein Geld"


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    Sorry,

    was ist Sesathin und red acid???

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    Zitat Zitat von IhrPlatz
    Sorry,

    was ist Sesathin und red acid???
    FYI

    SesaThin: Super Fish Oil
    Sesamin is a naturally occurring lignan present in sesame oil. It possesses great potential for decreasing fat mass and in fighting obesity and metabolic syndrome, via its effects on fatty acid oxidation and adipogenic gene expression. And, with research showing very strong correlations between inflammation, oxidative stress, obesity, and metabolic syndrome, sesamin’s anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory properties could be just as significant, if not more so. It also has the potential to stack very well with other supplementsthat modulate these systems, such as LeptiGen, stimulants, androgens, and Ab-Solved.

    To summarize:


    Increases fat burning

    Decreases fat storage

    Combats elevated cholesterol

    Potent anti-oxidant

    Potent anti-inflammatory

    Hepato-protective

    Stimulant free

    SesaThin is offered in a a 4oz liquid, which contains 45g of sesamin per bottle, and lasts 30 days at full dosing.

    REFRIGERATE AFTER OPENING


    Supplement Facts

    Serving Size: 1/4 Teaspoon (1.25mL)

    Servings Per Container: 90

    Amount Per Serving:

    Total Calories 7
    Calories from Fat 7
    Total Fat 1g 1%
    Saturated Fat 0g
    Protein 0g
    Total Carbohydrates 0g
    Sesamin 500mg

    Active Ingredients:

    Sesathin Sesame Oil extract standardized to 60% sesamin.

    Other Ingredients:

    Water, lecithin.

    Directions

    Use 1/2 capful (500mg Sesamin) 3 times per day, with meals. Those who tend to store bodyfat easily may benefit from up to two-fold higher dosing. Those who are naturally lean may prefer to use 1/2 of recommeded dosing. Likewise, an increase or decrease in calories +/- 500 calories from maintenence would warrant higher or lower dosing, respectively.


    Customer Reviews (view all)
    Average Rating 5


    Anonymous Rated: 5/5
    Another great product by avant labs. I`ve been using this about a month now and during that I haven`t been able to follow very strict diet because of travelling etc... I haven`t gained any fat though, and it seems to me that my midsection keeps getting tighter.

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    Zitat Zitat von IhrPlatz
    Sorry,

    was ist Sesathin und red acid???

    Red Acid™ is the most advanced fat incineration matrix ever to reach the market. It combines a synergistic blend of naturally occurring fatty acids and fatty acid analogues that serve as endogenous agonists of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha) and help to modulate ghrelin levels, producing a hunger satisfaction that effectively lowers your food intake. The fatty acid blend also helps stimulate glycerol and fatty acid release from adipocytes throughout the body.

    Key Attributes:


    Body Fat Reduction via Lipolysis

    Increased Energy

    Help Activate PPAR- alpha

    Decreased Appetite

    Greater Focus

    Enhanced Blood Flow

    Insulin Regulation

    Most people have trouble losing their fat stores because they cannot control their food intake while on a cutting or maintenance phase. Even with proper diet and cardio, many individuals will eventually experience problems losing fat at an "optimal" rate. Now we have the answer: Red Acid™. Red Acid™ is the most advanced fat incineration matrix ever to reach the market.

    Unlike other fat loss products, Red Acid™ helps you to achieve fat loss via several different pathways. It combines a synergistic blend of naturally occurring fatty acids and fatty acid analogues that serve as endogenous agonists of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha) and help to modulate ghrelin levels, producing a hunger satisfaction that effectively lowers your food intake. The fatty acid blend also helps stimulate glycerol and fatty acid release from adipocytes throughout the body. Herbal appetite suppressants that work via the CNS rather than the digestive tract, like our fatty acid blend does, were included to address the same appetite problem, but via a different pathway, the brain. Natural energizers and thermogenics have also been added to increase activity in the gym, which leads to calorie use. Enhanced focus is also attained by the addition of some of the most thoroughly researched nootropics.

    The REDuction Complex™
    (Fatty Acids and PPAR-alpha):

    Red Acid™ contains a fatty acid matrix that includes Oleoylethanolamide (OEA) and Tetradecylthioacetic Acid. OEA is a fatty acid that is a naturally occurring amide of ethanolamine and oleic acid. It starts working once it reaches the duodenum (the upper 1/3 of the small intestine) and is normally synthesized there by your body. It serves as an endogenous agonist of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha) and regulates lipid metabolism. OEA also activates vagal sensory afferent neurons and excites nodose ganglion neurons, which leads to decreased appetite and satiety. This naturally occurring fatty acid therefore inhibits food cravings and helps release fat from its stores in the body.

    Tetradecylthioacetic Acid is a special fatty acid that can help to diminish total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, triglycerides and LDL/HDL cholesterol when used in combination with a good diet and also exhibits anti-inflammatory effects. Tetradecylthioacetic Acid, like OEA, is an agonist of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-alpha (PPAR-alpha). Tetradecylthioacetic Acid has been shown to increase catabolism of fatty acids and exhibit antiadiposity effects. Tetradecylthioacetic Acid will help to effectively remove fat from its body stores and without forcing your body to effectively use it for energy. This allows you to “burn” fat at a much higher level than by simply exercising.

    The Transport Mechanism:
    A few hundred milligrams of flaxseed oil powder has also been added to aid in the transport of these two fatty acids into the duodenum and other necessary areas, so that they can be utilized completely.

    The Red Sweat Complex™ (Thermogenics, Nootropics and Appetite Suppression via CNS):

    We have combined the most effective and potent thermonutrients to increase the utilization of energy in your body. The most potent extracts of energizing ingredients were included to make your trip to the gym one you would not forget. If you do not work out with intensity you cannot realize your true potential for fat loss and lean body mass accumulation. Intensity in the gym cannot be accomplished without focus either; you need the mental acuity that only our top of the line nootropics can provide in order to excel at your fat loss goals.

    The Red Slob Complex™ (Herbal Appetite Suppression, Thyroid Support and Digestion Aids):

    Lastly, we added a proprietary blend of potent herbal appetite suppressants, digestion aids, thyroid support and stomach soothing compounds that work in synergy to target one of the hardest parts of fat loss: eating right. This blend effectively targets the central nervous system (CNS) to control your desire for food (without nausea or discomfort) and when combined with the anorexic effects of OEA you are in for a powerful combination.

    If you want to decrease your appetite, get rid of unwanted body fat, ramp up your endurance and enhance your focus in the gym, then Red Acid™ is the right choice for you.

    Red Acid™ makes an excellent stack when used in conjunction with Blue Rhino™. Together they will help you lose body fat and maintain your testosterone levels during a cutting (fat loss) phase.

    Key Attributes:

    * Body Fat Reduction via Lipolysis
    * Help Activate PPAR- alpha
    * Potent / effective / inexpensive solution
    * Decreased Appetite
    * Increased Energy
    * Greater Focus
    * Enhanced Blood Flow and insulin Regulation
    * Ephedra Free / Ephedrine Free
    * Yohimbe Free / Yohimbine Free
    * Helps potentiate other stimulants
    * Designed to stack VERY well with Blue Rhino
    * Designed to stack VERY well with Sesamin
    * Designed to stack VERY well with Synephrine
    * Designed to stack VERY well with Yohimbe
    * Extreme fat loss results without nausea

    REFERENCES

    1. Wang X, Miyares RL, Ahern GP. Oleoylethanolamide excites vagal sensory neurones, induces visceral pain and reduces short-term food intake in mice via capsaicin receptor TRPV1. J Physiol. 2005 Apr 15;564(Pt 2):541-7. Epub 2005 Feb 3.

    2. J Biol Chem. Oleoylethanolamide stimulates lipolysis by activating the nuclear receptor peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor alpha (PPAR-alpha). 2004 Jul 2;279(27):27849-54. Epub 2004 Apr 26.

    3. Fu J, Oveisi F, Gaetani S, Lin E, Piomelli D. Oleoylethanolamide, an endogenous PPAR-alpha agonist, lowers body weight and hyperlipidemia in obese rats. Neuropharmacology. 2005 Jun;48(8):1147-53. Epub 2005 Apr 21.

    4. Proulx K, Cota D, Castaneda TR, Tschop MH, D'Alessio DA, Tso P, Woods SC, Seeley RJ Mechanisms of oleoylethanolamide-induced changes in feeding behavior and motor activity. Am J Physiol Regul Integr Comp Physiol. 2005 Sep;289(3):R729-37. Epub 2005 May 5.

    5. Lo Verme J, Gaetani S, Fu J, Oveisi F, Burton K, Piomelli D. Regulation of food intake by oleoylethanolamide. Cell Mol Life Sci. 2005 Mar;62(6):708-16.

    6. Cani PD, Montoya ML, Neyrinck AM, Delzenne NM, Lambert DM. Potential modulation of plasma ghrelin and glucagon-like peptide-1 by anorexigenic cannabinoid compounds, SR141716A (rimonabant) and oleoylethanolamide. Br J Nutr. 2004 Nov;92(5):757-61.

    7. Nielsen MJ, Petersen G, Astrup A, Hansen HS. Food intake is inhibited by oral oleoylethanolamide. J Lipid Res. 2004 Jun;45(6):1027-9. Epub 2004 Apr 1.

    8. Larsen LN, Granlund L, Holmeide AK, Skattebol L, Nebb HI, Bremer J. Sulfur-substituted and alpha-methylated fatty acids as peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor activators. Lipids. 2005 Jan;40(1):49-57.

    9. Granlund L, Larsen LN, Nebb HI, Pedersen JI. Effects of structural changes of fatty acids on lipid accumulation in adipocytes and primary hepatocytes. Biochim Biophys Acta. 2005 Feb 21;1687(1-3):23-30.

    10. Fredriksen J, Ueland T, Dyroy E, Halvorsen B, Melby K, Melbye L, Skalhegg BS, Bohov P, Skorve J, Berge RK, Aukrust P, Froland SS. Lipid-lowering and anti-inflammatory effects of tetradecylthioacetic acid in HIV-infected patients on highly active antiretroviral therapy. Eur J Clin Invest. 2004 Oct;34(10):709-15.

    11. Rampler H, Weinhofer I, Netik A, Forss-Petter S, Brown PJ, Oplinger JA, Bugaut M, Berger J. Evaluation of the therapeutic potential of PPARalpha agonists for X-linked adrenoleukodystrophy. Mol Genet Metab. 2003 Dec;80(4):398-407.

    12. Berge RK, Skorve J, Tronstad KJ, Berge K, Gudbrandsen OA, Grav H. Metabolic effects of *** fatty acids. Curr Opin Lipidol. 2002 Jun;13(3):295-304.


    Supplement Facts






    Serving Size: 3 Capsules
    Servings Per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving:

    REDuction Complex™ 1000mg
    FlaxSeed Oil Powder, Bioactive Fatty-Acid Ethanolamide (Oleoylethanolamide) (OEA), Hypolipidemic Fatty Acid Analogue (Tetradecylthioacetic Acid)

    Red Sweat Complex™ 650mg
    L-tyrosine, Natural Caffeine, Green Tea Extract (60% EGCG), Coleus Forskohlii (20% Forskolin), Evodia Rutaecarpa (95% Evodiamine Extract), Cocoa Bean (Extracted for 99% Theobromine), Salvia Sclaria (96% sclareolides), Bioperine® (Piper Nigrum), Vinca Minor (Extracted for 99% Vinpocetine), Huperzia Serrata (Extracted for 99% Huperzine A)

    Red Slob Complex™ 500mg
    Cordia Salicifolia (Leaf Extract), Big Red™ (Cayenne Fruit Extract), Ginger Root, Hoodia Gordonii (60% Cactus Extract), Commiphora Mukul (95% Guggulsterones E&Z), Jojoba Meal (60% Simmondsin Extract)

    Directions

    Take 3 capsule 20-30 minutes before breakfast. Then take another 3 capsules 30 minutes before you workout.

    Warnings:

    You should not take this product if you have a medical condition, including diabetes or high blood pressure.

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    sesathin

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    WAS EIN *******!!! SON MIT HAB ICH NOCH NIE GESEHEN!!


    Bring dir Ephedrin mit!!! Am besten das Hcl!! ist dort billig!

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    Zitat Zitat von MuscleMonster
    WAS EIN ---pieeep---!!! SON MIT HAB ICH NOCH NIE GESEHEN!!

    Ich nehme mal an, dass du dieses urteil nach eigener erprobung dieser substanzen gefällt hast, oder zumindest anhand von anwenderberichten / logs?

    gruss

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